Post by: MrsFlynn on April 20, 2021, 10:27:09 AM
✽ Rules and Goal of Playthrough (https://jadekitten.net/mfhot/index.php?topic=178.msg1579#msg1579)
✽ Links and Tips/Information (https://jadekitten.net/mfhot/index.php?topic=178.msg1580#msg1580)
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~ Players:
Nindigo's Sim ~ VJ (https://jadekitten.net/mfhot/index.php?topic=178.msg1590#msg1590)
MrsFlynn's Sim ~ Melani (https://jadekitten.net/mfhot/index.php?topic=178.msg1595#msg1595)
Post by: MrsFlynn on April 20, 2021, 10:27:26 AM
- Town: Player's choice. This will also help us see how the career progresses in different towns and what issues we each have with the career.
- Extra money making allowed from any non career/self employment source and from the decided upon Career. (So you don't have to live in a totally ugly house...priorities people!)
- Trips to World Adventure Worlds allowed.
- Time in University Allowed but only if your sim is making a genuine effort to complete a degree *snicker*
- No trips to the future.
- Having a family and pets are fine, but we're trying to concentrate more on the Architect Sim and their career.
- Romantic relationships allowed.
- Can use items from all eps/sps, store and custom content.
- Static Needs - Allowed, if you want to give more time for skilling and socializing, etc.
- Buydebug - Your choice.
- NRAAS Mods - A must (no kidding but you really should use them!)
- If wanting to edit your save file, in adding extra Sims or lots, do so before starting the save. It may cause issue with the Architect career if you edit while playing the save file.
~ Goals of the Play-Through:
To complete the top level of the profession and possibly the LTW? -- Home Design Hotshot ~ a Total of 100 Great Reviews
To share any tips and tricks that work well (and perhaps share those that don't work quite as well lol).
To get as close to completing the Life Time Wish as possible?
Eventually support your sim off the proceeds of the profession without the need to earn simoleons in any other way. Which may be pretty tough on these Ambitions Professions/Careers.
Post by: MrsFlynn on April 20, 2021, 10:27:37 AM
Carl's Guide to the Architectural Design Profession
https://www.carls-sims-3-guide.com/careers/ambitions/architecturaldesign.php
Sims Wiki - Architect Profession
https://sims.fandom.com/wiki/Architecture
~ Tips/Notes:
Having a high skill in painting before getting into the profession is a good thing. Will help when it comes to renovating homes.
When client isn't home, do some of the renovation, then click on the floor of the home or click on the lot and select Tell Client Renovation is Complete.
Quickly cancel the action when the client arrives home, this will give you a chance to talk with them to get to know them and discuss the renovation. This helps in possibly getting a bonus.
- Get the Observant Lifetime Reward as soon as possible. This helps learn others traits faster.
Try to wrap the renovation up before 6pm or you will not get paid and game will consider it a failed renovation. You can't check back the next day. The game won't let you.
Check Map View to find jobs available between 8am - 6pm. Do not start to late in the day or else it will be considered a failed renovation if you run past 6pm.
Add items from the family inventory to the renovation. Be careful, this adds to the budget remaining money and may reflect negatively on the review if client is rich.
If you're not able to chat with the client about the renovation, look around the house at what you can copy/paste into the house. Do they have expensive taste? If yes, use that as your inspiration. -- Use the eye dropper tool to copy a chair, if that's some thing they're asking for.
Be mindful of the money used. Unless they have a tight budget, try to save between a $500 - $1000 of the budget unless you know they're rich.
If renovations are done for children or teenagers, be prepared to wait til school is out (2 - 3pm) to have the client look at what you've done. The job could take up to 7-8 game hours to complete.
Replace with slightly higher quality item if possible.
Swap out items they already have... This counts towards the list of items desired!!
Not worth picking up furniture in junkyard. The replacement value is more than the cost of buying new.
If you have a skilled handy Sim to do the work on broken appliances, it could be worth fixing.
Furniture found in dumpster diving is worth keeping or selling.
Click on design icon via Map View to see renovation info and accept or decline jobs from there.
Click on Front Door to Continue or Tell Client Job is Complete.
Job Hours M-F - 8am - 6m. Watch for messages on screen.
Takes about 4 hours to Research Architectural Design
Takes about 8 hours to finish a large painting
Takes about 45minutes to take measurements
Takes about an hour for a review
Discuss Renovation Interaction Lv8
Measuring Client's home Interaction Lv5
Post by: Nindigo on April 20, 2021, 04:26:16 PM
I'm having VJ max his painting skill, before joining the profession. Miraj wanted a kid, so they adopted an elementary school child, a girl named Bayou :)
I'm trying to have Miraj complete all of the cooking challenges - never did that one before :)
*Notes: Twinbrook homes seem to have "convenient" extra space for this profession. I think it is the best place for this profession. Also, I have noticed that the work day bears resemblance to the Ghost Hunter one.
Jobs:
Level 1, Fabric Fetcher
1. Amy Bull - gym addition, hated it
2. Buddy Bailey - art studio, liked it
3. Molly Coddle - powder room, hated it
4. Bobby Sargeant - exterior makeover, liked it
Level 2, Pattern Spotter
5. Mary Baker - book nook, hated it (service reward)
6. Gwayne Bayless - writing room, liked it
7. Milly Pidgin - gym addition, liked it
8. Buddy Bailey - painting studio, liked it
Level 3, Placement Planner
9. Dudley Racket - study, hated it
10. Anna-Liza Riddle - new bedroom set, liked it
11. DeAndre Wolfe - Exterior Makeover, hated it
12. Clark Pedder - Book Nook, liked it
13. Amy Bull - Single Lady's Den, liked it
14. Robert Castor - New Bedroom Set, hated it
15. Max Racket - New Bedroom Set, hated it
16. Pattina Knack - Study, liked it
Level 4, Feng Shui Fiend
Stopped...
Post by: MrsFlynn on April 22, 2021, 12:37:36 PM
 | * Name: Melani Schmidt * AGT: YA Female Human * Sign: Virgo * Traits: Computer Wiz, Easily Impressed, Perfectionist, Kleptomaniac, Absent-Minded * Faves: Spaghetti, Pop music and the color Spiceberry * LTW: Home Design Hotshot Hot Shot Designer - Get 100 Top Scores/Great Reviews * More Info: Playing with Base game and Ambitions enabled via a Game Selector Mod (https://modthesims.info/d/499140). Minimal mods, and some store content and 1 lone piece of CC = Melani's "bob-like" hair. Skilled her up to Painting Lv10 to help the career go smoother. ✦ ✧ʚ .·:*¨༺♡༻¨*:·. ɞ✧ ⚜️ ✧ʚ .·:*¨༺♡༻¨*:·. ɞ✧ ✦ 🔷 AD Journal (https://jadekitten.net/mfhot/index.php?topic=178.msg1617#msg1617) Spoiler: Mods_List (click to show/hide) Spoiler: Store_Stuff (click to show/hide) |
Post by: Nindigo on April 25, 2021, 07:33:14 AM
Amy asked for a gym addition. I gave her everything she required, used her favorite color and threw in some extra decor, because she is artistic. I think it looks stunning to say so myself - better than the rest of her house to be honest. I spent around half of the budget money. She absolutely hated it. Poor VJ...and me.
*needs comfort cookies badly*
Post by: MrsFlynn on April 25, 2021, 09:40:59 AM
So when you're feeling Yay I'm doing a good job and proud of yourself. It will throw a wrench and the Sim you're remodeling for will hate it.
It's a self-esteem killer!!
Also if you're painting skill isn't maxed you have more of a chance of clients not liking your work. Even if you decorate the place all spiffy.
*Hands Nindigo some comfort cookies*
Hugsies 🤗
Post by: Sonshine on April 25, 2021, 09:46:10 AM
Post by: Nindigo on April 25, 2021, 10:38:46 AM
So far, it seems every other renovation gets a good response. But after the initial one, I have used less effort - at least while still at low level. Actually, one doesn't have to build rooms for some renovations - just placing the required items is sufficient. Other than that, I'm starting to view the jobs as an excuse to make Sim's homes more to my taste. VJ has maxed his painting skill and is churning out masterpieces en masse.
Here is a picture of little Bayou, their adopted daughter:
- Image Removed
Post by: MrsFlynn on April 25, 2021, 01:17:55 PM
You can do that naturally or cheat via Nraas MC.
Change the Skill Level -
Click on Sim > Nraas > M.C. > Advanced > Skill Level -
Click on Painting and on the checkmark to accept.
Type in the number 10 for Skill Lv. 10
Post by: MrsFlynn on April 25, 2021, 01:33:08 PM
Are you still trying for maxing the LTW? I have it set to that so to speak. But I am not sure I'm going to go that far. As I've never in all my times trying this career have figured out the magic formula to get a great/top score.
Their daughter is cute!! :)
Post by: MrsFlynn on April 25, 2021, 05:07:48 PM
DLv3
Job #14 - Study
Good Job! ~ Take a Photo 📸
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Wk2-D3 Tues. 9am
DLv3
Job #13 - Man Cave
Terrible Job
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Wk2-D2 Mon. 11am
DLv3
Job #12 - Living Room Redesign
Good Job! ~ Take a Photo 📸
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Wk2-D2 Mon. 8:06am
DLv3
Job #11 - Single Lady's Den
Good Job! ~ Take a Photo 📸
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Wk1-D6 Fri. 12:12pm
DLv2
Job #10 - Book Nook
Good Job! ~ Take a Photo 📸
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Wk1-D6 Fri. 8:33am
DLv2
Job #9 - Gym Additions
Terrible Job
Tip: If doors/windows can't be placed due to too close to stairs.. move the walls.
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Wk1-D5 Thurs. 2:30pm
Designer Lv2
Job #8 - Painting Studio
Good Job! ~ Take a Photo 📸
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Wk1-D5 Thurs. 12:04pm
Designer Lv2
Job #7 - Gym Addition
Good Job! ~ Take a Photo 📸
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Wk1-D5 Thurs. 8:14am
Designer Lv2
Job #6 - Writing Room
Terrible Job
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Wk1-D4 Wed. 12:14pm
Designer Lv1
Job #5 - Gym Addition
Terrible! I don't think so! *Sigh*
Aw well, I enjoyed the makeover.
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Wk1-D4 Wed. 8:47am
Job #4 - Exterior Makeover
Good Job! ~ Take a Photo 📸
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Wk1-D3 Tues. 2:34pm
Job #3 - Powder Room
Good Job!! - Take a photo!
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Wk1-D3 Tues. 8:04am
Job #2 - Writing Room
Terrible Job.. Too cluttered.
(in my defense, there's not a lot of room to add things yo!)
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Wk1-D2 Designer Lv1, Painting Lv10
Tues. Mon.1:36pm
Job #1 - Book Nook
Terrible Job.. Too cluttered. *Sticks Tongue out*
Post by: Nindigo on April 26, 2021, 08:25:20 AM
Are you still trying for maxing the LTW?Depending on how frequent those top scores will become later on - yes.
Post by: MrsFlynn on April 26, 2021, 08:31:45 AM
For me it depends on how much better I can get at the renovations. If I continue to get low scoring ones I won't be trying for the goal of maxing the LTW.
Post by: MrsFlynn on April 27, 2021, 06:57:27 PM
I thought ? active Sim still gained job experienced even if skill is maxed. If it relates to the career. At least that's how it worked for PI career and Logic. I watched while the job experience lit up while Melani was playing chess in my PI save.
Tip: Darker icons may be left over jobs from the previous day. - The icon in the upper right is slightly darker than the other two in the photo.
Tip: If doors/windows can't be placed due to too close to stairs.. move the walls.
I have to agree with Nindigo if I haven't already. Doing the renovation to suit yourself is very satisfying. So when you get a terrible review, you can still feel good that you've done an awesome job on the renovation.
Somebody should be really taking photos of some of their renovations. *Blush*
I've updated my AD Journal and cleaned it up a bit too...
Journal Update (https://jadekitten.net/mfhot/index.php?topic=178.msg1617#msg1617)
Post by: Nindigo on April 28, 2021, 07:11:33 AM
My Miraj, who started the PI profession with maxed out logic, never participated in logic-based activities, so I wouldn't know if that would have provided any exp.
Post by: MrsFlynn on April 28, 2021, 07:44:13 AM
Thanks for the confirmation!! :)
I don't think there's any job-related skill to the AD career other than painting is there? I never thought to check that. lol
Post by: Nindigo on April 28, 2021, 08:58:49 AM
The issue with painting not giving job exp might be a bug, since logic-based activities give exp to investigators, and turning in captured spirits gives exp to ghost hunters. It looks like a pattern to me - a main skill, the jobs themselves, and a side activity to provide job exp. I have no idea about the other professions, but maybe we could "investigate" further after this little project?
*hands dark side cookies and hugsies to MrsFlynn just because*
Post by: MrsFlynn on April 28, 2021, 10:08:37 AM
Oooh great idea to investigate if it's a bug that painting doesn't give job experience. As like you said, it should. The other professions get job experience from their job-related skill.
Cookies and Hugsies <3
Post by: Nindigo on April 28, 2021, 10:10:18 AM
If you don't really want to change residents' home, you can just place items that don't fit in - that way, you can easily spot them after the job and remove them :P
Thanksies!!
Post by: MrsFlynn on April 28, 2021, 10:33:09 AM
Grumped that it was too cluttered. And can't get to new items.
I did take a tip from Nindigo and proudly made the renovation my own by making the rooms slightly bigger so there was room to get to said desk with computer and chair.
I didn't make the living room bigger, but did re-arrange it so that it had room around the coffee instead of the furniture looking like it was all crammed together.
Next time I'm in game, I'll go get photos of the house I'm talking about so you can have a peeksee.
I think I did an awesome job on the renovation and am proud of it even though I got a terrible review.
Post by: Nindigo on April 28, 2021, 12:14:37 PM
VJ was to renovate a client's bedroom, so he did. The client, who is an unlucky military dude who dislikes art, got a new and more expensive bedroom set. His reaction? 'I can't live in this squalor! You have to give me the bare minimum for living, before I let you leave!'. It sounded so desperate that I couldn't help but laugh out loud. I then had VJ add the expensive laptop to the desk in the bedroom. Client's reaction? 'I can't live in this squalor! Yada-yada...'. The window displaying the requirements for the renovation stuck, but it disappeared when I clicked the jobs button in the profession tab. I assume everything is back to normal now. I wonder if the client's reaction was due to the fact that I took his curtains away. I thought I was doing him a favor, as he dislikes decor. *shrugs*
Post by: MrsFlynn on April 28, 2021, 12:30:31 PM
I've tried before to appease the algorithm for the career and sometimes it helps sometimes it doesn't.
Post by: Nindigo on April 28, 2021, 01:45:44 PM
I'm invested in my little Twinbrook family though. VJ could take up something else. Just...not stylist, please? Lol, I usually dislike the dressing-up aspect of the game, and changing the looks of residents. I was a tomboy in childhood when other girls played with dolls. It does come over me sometimes, but I don't really want to feel forced. If that is okay? :)
Post by: MrsFlynn on April 28, 2021, 01:56:24 PM
I'm on the fence about playing some more as well. I want to still give it a little more time Just because I only got back into it a couple of nights ago. It has been somewhat discouraging.
However, with the tip you shared of making the renovation your own. I want to play like that for a little while longer before quitting. At least one full work day if I am on the ball I can get one or two jobs done in a day.
I'm not sure what to try next. Give me a few days and we'll see if we can come up with something then.
Post by: Nindigo on April 28, 2021, 02:16:03 PM
I wouldn't mind playing with inventing next, because I learned today that you can get a hold of some nice items using the time travel machine. That speaks to my curiosity and...um, greed :P
Post by: MrsFlynn on April 28, 2021, 02:19:19 PM
Post by: Nindigo on April 28, 2021, 02:21:55 PM
Post by: MrsFlynn on April 29, 2021, 01:48:00 PM
Had to look some information up via Sims Wiki. *Blush* This is the Bayless family home. I notice there aren't any photos of what it originally looked like and I didn't take any before photos.
Front:
Main Floor:
Loft Area:
Back Porch:
Post by: MrsFlynn on April 29, 2021, 01:52:23 PM
My goal is to complete 12 jobs. lol
As of right now I've finished job 10. Which was a good review. But I feel the client was a lot more easy going and did have more room in their house for the items asked for.
To where job 9 = terrible review, but their house was dark, cramped and there wasn't a lot of room to add the items asked for.
Post by: Nindigo on April 29, 2021, 02:29:18 PM
I got 16 jobs done with VJ. 9 jobs was liked, 7 was hated. Good luck on reaching your goal! I'm cheering for you.
As for the photos you posted...what did you change? What was the job? It looks a lot like before I started doing my Bayless renovation. I believe Gwayne wanted a study. I moved some things around to make enough space for the required items ;D
Post by: MrsFlynn on April 29, 2021, 03:14:22 PM
It was a Writing Room renovation. I did this job for them twice. Both terrible reviews.
1st time they wanted a stereo, living room chair, desk chair, desk, computer and maybe something else.
They wanted same items plus a coffee table in the 2nd Wring Room renovation, so I moved the living room furniture around so it could accommodate a bigger coffee table while still having enough room around it.
While doing the 2nd renovation for them I made the rooms bigger, moved some stuff around so they were easier to access and made the bedrooms in the "loft" bigger. So they'd have actual room to get to their new items.
I'm not entirely sure why the terrible review, but I'm happy with it. :)
For the most part I tried to keep with the same foot print of the original house. If you look closely, to the original and my renovation you can see what I changed. The loft hallway or whatever it's called is one square bigger than it used to be as well.
Post by: Nindigo on April 29, 2021, 10:40:20 PM
Your renos were so good and in tune with the original style, that I didn't notice them - ninja renos. Well done!
Don't listen to the Sims in this profession, listen to yourself <3
Post by: MrsFlynn on April 30, 2021, 11:21:57 AM
The other job (s) I am really proud of are the ones I did for Robert Castor. - Castor family 32 Sweetwater Loop
I absolutely love their house!! I didn't realize they actually had a basement til the 2nd renovation I did for them. *Blush*
1st renovation was to give the house more windows and doors. So I replaced all the doors and added some windows. This is where I removed some walls and moved some walls to make the upstairs hallway a little bigger and so I could actually place the doors. As they just wouldn't place otherwise.
I didn't think to take photos of that renovation. But I was lucky enough to get a new request from him of a new Living Room Redesign. I was actually really happy to get the chance to do this renovation.
I added new couches and living room chairs, some lights all over the main floor. This is when I found the house had a basement. lol Added some paintings I had done over the weekend, some lights, a big screen tv, and new washer and dryer, counters and sink.
He loved it and gave me a good review!!
Main Floor ~
2nd Floor ~
Bsmt Before ~
Bsmt After ~
Living room Before ~
Living room After ~
Post by: MrsFlynn on April 30, 2021, 01:00:50 PM
I got a chance to do another renovation for him. This time for a Man Cave. New Tv, couch and some other things, can't really remember... I liked the house, it's got a cute beachy-vibe to it. So I went with it and rearranged (living room and kitchen) and added extra things (around the house) that weren't on the list. As I was sure to get a good review.
Yeah... I got a terrible review. That really -really- shocked me. As I thought I did a pretty amazing job.
I did take photos this time anyway. :)
Main Floor
2nd Floor
Front Deck
Back Deck
Post by: MrsFlynn on April 30, 2021, 01:18:46 PM
Like Nindgo said, there is a lot of grind and very little reward in this career that for me it's exhausting trying to do your best in the renovation and then feel like you're getting slapped in the face when the Sim comes back with a terrible review. Takes the fun right out of it.
I admit I don't feel like I am good at designing homes = furnishing and decorating aren't my thing I'd rather build. lol But I thought I did a pretty good job on at least some of the renovations I did. It did help to have just base game and Ambitions installed because if they had a higher end stereo, for example and wanted it replaced. All you could do is give them the most expensive stereo available. That actually helped.!! :)
And no.. We're not going to play Stylist... As it's pretty much the same as the AD career just in that you're doing makeovers on Sims. And yeah no..
I have more fun renovating Sims houses by using testingcheatsenabled on - shift-click on lot and select Build on Lot than I do trying to do the AD career. Same with stylist. Although with the Sim you click on them and take them into CAS to give 'em a makeover. They can't complain!! :)
Post by: Nindigo on April 30, 2021, 02:44:42 PM
I might get stubborn at some point and try to reach level 10 in this profession, but...I'm going to have to steel myself first and find a bottomless well of patience within me somewhere.
Nevertheless, it's awesome to try all these Ambitions things out <3
Post by: MrsFlynn on April 30, 2021, 03:36:14 PM
Plus there's the feeling like you've done an awesome job on the remodel and then getting slapped in the face with a terrible review... That don't feel so good.
Post by: Nindigo on April 30, 2021, 03:56:26 PM
Post by: Lapaige46 on May 07, 2021, 10:54:43 AM
Good job on the renos MrsFlynn. I did a reno in the "swampy" house as well.
One of the things I noticed is that my guy ended up nicking his client's cars. Apparently this is a known bug but I ended up selling some pretty fancy cars so as a result, my sim ended up being quite wealthy. :D Being a klepto isn't even one of his traits.
Check you family inventories to see if you have picked up a car or two.
My new game sim is in the stylist career. It's the same type of thing. Clients either like the new look or they don't. I'm on the fence about continuing. I think today I'll go ahead and load up my saved games to my new computer and go from there. I can't do much else today since I'm stuck on the couch with a sore foot.
Post by: MrsFlynn on May 07, 2021, 05:20:38 PM